24. ON SIMULTANEITY AND RELATIVITY OF LENGTH AND TIME INTERVAL
The main subject of the special theory of relativity are three concepts
and they are: simultaneity, relativity of lengths and relativity of time
intervals. Einstein began his work on the theory of relativity by defining
and explaining these concepts in the first and second paragraph of his
first paper in that field [2].
The relativistic way of treating time, simultaneity and space is the
subject of many discussions in different scientific spheres, from physics
to philosophy.
24.1 Einstein's determination of simultaneity and relativity
of length and time interval
With regard to the importance of the mentioned concepts and the
originality in their treatment, it is best if the reader gets first hand information
on Einstein's exposition. For that purpose we shall quote here both paragraphs
from his first paper on relativity, and then give our commentary on the
quoted material.
Quotation: "§1 Determining simultaneity
Let us take a coordinate system in which are valid the equations of
Newton's mechanics. For the purpose of distinguishing it from later introduced
coordinate systems and for the purpose of defining terminology let us name
this coordinate system an "unmoving system".
If a material point is at rest relatively to this coordinate system,
then its position relatively to that system can be determined by the methods
of Euclid's geometry with the help of solid ruler and expressed in Descartes
coordinates.
If we want to describe a motion of some material point, we set the
values of its coordinates in the function of time. Thereby we should bear
in mind that such a mathematical description has physical meaning only
then when it is previously clarified what is meant by the concept of "time".
We should focus our attention to the fact that in all our judgements, in
which time plays some role, the judgment about simultaneity always appears.
If I, for example, say: "That train arrives here at 7 o'clock." That, for
example, means the following: "The small hand on my watch showing seven
o'clock and the arrival of the train are simultaneous events."
[Here will not be considered an inaccuracy in the conception of the simultaneity
of two events, which originate (approximately) in the same place, which would
also be overcome by the help of some abstraction.]
It can be shown that all difficulties in connection with the determining
"time" can be overcome if, instead of the word "time", I write "the position
of the small hand on my clocks". Such a decision really is sufficient only
in case when we determine the time for the particular place in which the
clocks are just situated. However, that decision is already insufficient
when we should connect, from the point of view of time, two series of events,
one another, which flowing in different places. In one word, it would determine
the time of events which occur in places distant from clocks.
If we want to determine the time of events, we could, of course, satisfy
ourselves by compelling an observer, who is standing with a watch at the
origin, to compare corresponding positions of the watch hands with every
light signal coming to him through vacuum and informing him of the registered
event. However, that comparison is connected with the difficulties that
we know from experiments. Namely, it will not be independent of the place
where the observer is standing with the clock. We shall come up with a
far more practical determination by means of the following reasoning.
If a clock is placed at point
in space,
then the observer, standing at point
, can determine
the time of events in the immediate vicinity of point
through the simultaneous observation of these
events and the position of the clock hands. If at another point
of space there is also a clock (we add: "The same clock as at the point
") then it is also possible for an observer at point
to assess the time of events in the immediate vicinity
of
. However, it is
impossible to compare, from the point of view of time, some event at
with an event at
without making further assumptions. For now
we shall only determine "
- time" and
"
- time", but not the general "time" for
and
. The latter can be determined
by introducing the definition that the "time" needed for the passage of
light from
to
equals the "time" needed for
the passage of light from
to
.
At a moment
by "
- time" let a ray of light
come out of
towards
,
let it reflect at the moment
by "
- time"
from
to
and return to
at the moment
by
"
- time". The clocks in
and
will, according to the definition, run in a synchronized manner if
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We believe that the determining of simultaneity can be given in an
un-contradictory manner and for an arbitrary number of points and that
the following claims are true:
1) If the clock at
runs synchronized
with the clock at
then the clock in
runs synchronized with the clock at
.
2) If the clock in
runs synchronized
with the clock at
, as well as with the clock at
, then the clocks at
and
run synchronized relatively to each other.
In this manner, by using some physical thought experiments, we have
determined what should be understood by synchronized clocks, which are
at rest in different places and owing to that we have, obviously, obtained
the definition of the concepts: "simultaneity" and "time". The "time" of
events - that is simultaneously with events indication of clocks at rest,
which are placed at the place of the events and which run synchronized
with a certain number of clocks at rest.
In accordance with the experiment we shall also assume that the magnitude
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(24.2) |
is an universal constant (the speed of light in vacuum).
Having in mind that we determined time with the help of clocks at rest
in the system at rest, then we shall name the time belonging to the system
at rest the "time in the system at rest".
§2 On relativity of length and time interval
Further thinking relies on the principle of relativity and the principle
of the constancy of the speed of light. We formulate both principles in
the following way:
1) The laws by which the states of physical systems change, do not
depend from that on which of the two systems, moving with uniform translation
relatively to each other, these changes of state refer to.
2) Every ray of light moves in the "unmoving" system of coordinates
at a definite speed
, independently of whether that ray of light
is emitted by an unmoving body or a moving body.
Thereby we have
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whereat "time interval" should be understood in the sense of the definition
in §1.
Let us take a solid piston at rest and let its length
be measured with a ruler, which is also at rest.
Now let us imagine that the piston, whose axis is directed by the
-axis of the unmoving
coordinate system, is pushed into gradual motion (at a speed
)
uniformly and translatory in the direction of the growth of value
.
Let us now question the length of the piston in motion, which we are intending
to determine with the help of two following operations.
a) The observer is moving together with the said ruler and with the
measured piston and measures the length of the piston directly by resting
the ruler against the piston, the same as if the measured piston, observer
and measuring device were at rest.
b) With the help of separate unmoving clocks in the unmoving system,
which are synchronized, in the sense of §1, the observer determines
in which points of the unmoving system the beginning and the end of the
measured piston are at a certain time
. The distance between these
two points, measured by the said procedure, with the ruler at rest, is
the length which can be marked as the "length of the piston".
In accordance with the principle of relativity, the length determined
by the operation "a", which we shall call the "length of the piston in
the moving system" should be equal to the length
of the piston
at rest.
The length determined by the operation "b", which we shall call "the
length (in motion) of the piston in an unmoving system" will be determined
on the basis of our two principles and we shall find that it is different
from
.
In the kinematics, which is usually applied, it is taken without
objection that the lengths determined with the help of the two said operations are
equal, or, in other words, that a solid body, which is moving, at a moment
in geometrical relation can be completely substituted with the same
body when it is at rest in a certain position.
Let us imagine that clocks are fastened at both ends of the piston
(
and
) which are synchronous with clocks
in the unmoving system, that is, their indication respond to the "time in the unmoving system"
in exactly those places in which these clock are situated; consequently
these clocks are "synchronous in the unmoving system".
Let us further imagine that by each clock there is an observer, moving
with it, and that these observers apply on both clocks, as established
in §1, the criteria of simultaneity in the working of the two clocks.
At a time
[The "time" here signifies the "time in the unmoving system"
and together with the "positions of the hands of the moving clocks, which are situated in that
place under discussion".] let a ray of light come out of
,
let it reflect at
at a time
and return to
at a time moment
.
Taking into account the principle of constancy of the speed of light we find
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where
is the length of a moving piston, measured in an
unmoving system. So, the observer who is moving together with the piston,
will find that the clocks at points
and
do no run synchronized, whereas the observers, who are in the unmoving system would
claim that the clocks were synchronized.
So, we see that we should not give an absolute meaning to the concept
of simultaneity. Two events which are simultaneous, when observed from
one coordinate system, are not understood as such when observed from the
system which is moving relatively to the given system." End of quotation.
24.2 Objections to Einstein's determination of simultaneity and relativity
of length and time interval
From the above quoted text the reader may have noticed Einstein's
following claims.
Every point of space has its time. There is no general time. Thus,
for example, point
has time
,
and point
has time
.
The time in a coordinate system at rest differs from the time
in the moving system, so there is "time in the system at rest" and "time
in the moving system". His time is the position of the small hand on a
clock.
Simultaneity can exist only in one coordinate system, in the system
which is at rest or in a moving system. Furthermore, the absolute meaning
of time does not exist, since the events which are simultaneous at the
observation from one system are not simultaneous at the observation from
another system which is moving relatively to the given system.
For measuring time and establishing of simultaneity of events clocks
are used which work synchronized in the system at rest or in the system
which is moving relatively to the system at rest. According to Einstein,
they cannot work in synchronization in both systems at the same time. The
synchronization of the clocks at
and
he conditions by the equality of time needed for a light ray to pass from
to
with the time needed for the same
ray to pass from
to
,
that is
.
He bases the negation of the existence of absolute time and simultaneity
on the alleged impossibility of determining the existence of such time
and simultaneity. In fact, this leads in essence to the assertion that
something does not exist because I cannot determine its existence, thereby
I do no take into account my ignorance or lack of equipment for the determination.
With the following examples we can see the problem of determining time
and simultaneity.
Let us have a line of boats as in the Fig. 24.1.
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When the boats are at rest, clocks on them can be synchronized in the
following way. Let us place boat
right in the middle and let
us fire a shot from boat
. The sound of that shot will be heard at
the same time on boats
and
and it will be possible to synchronize all clocks to a set, agreed time, that is their telling
of time will be synchronized. When that line of boats is moving, it is
obvious that we can apply the same method again. Sailors who do not know
that the boats are moving relatively to the air, will be convinced that
they have synchronized the clocks in
and
.
However, when the boats are moving then a signal from point
will take longer time to reach boat
than boat
, because boat
is going away from
the source of sound, and the boat
is coming
towards the sound. That difference depends on the speed at which the line
of boats is traveling. Therefore, it is impossible to synchronize the clocks
by that procedure when a line of boats is moving. However, it would be
completely wrong to claim that there are no other technical possibilities
for synchronizing clocks in a given line of boats which is moving. For
example, first the speed of the line of boats can be determined, then the
time needed for the sound to travel form boat
to the boats
and
. On the basis of
this data a sound signal should be sent from the boat
in the
direction of each of them, which they will receive at the same time and
synchronize their clocks by it. It is clear that thereby a signal sent
in the direction
should be delayed relatively to the signal
sent in the direction
. The delay will be the time difference between
the time needed for the signal to reach boat
, which is travelling
towards the sound, and boat
, which is going away from the sound.
The precision in determining simultaneity, and thus the precision in
synchronizing clocks, in first case, when the line of boats is at rest,
will depend on the precision of determining the distances
and
. In the second case, when the line is moving,
it will depend on the precision of determining these distances and also on the precision
of determining the speed of motion.
Whether two events are simultaneous or not does not depend on how we
seen then and whether we see them at all. Our judgment whether something
is or is not simultaneous does not depend only on our observation of the
moment when a ray of light comes from the scene of an event, but also on
our knowledge related to the event and the scene of the event. Thus, for
example, two men are observing the explosion of a star through telescopes.
One of them knows nothing about the distance to the star, and the other
one is an astronomer. The fist one will think that the star explosion is
happening at the same time as he is observing the star, while the other
will know that it happened in a remote past, maybe even a million years
ago, if the star is a million light years away from us. From this example
we see that a subjective judgment of simultaneity is unreliable.
With the development of social community, grew the need for common
general time. Prehistoric man had no such need. For him the time of his
zone of motion around a cave was sufficient. However, developed societies
can not even be imagined with such segmented time.
In principle, we measure time with the course of events. For example,
for the ancient Egyptians the flooding of the Nile was such an event. It
happened every year and so they could count years by it. With time man
defined and measured time better and better.
All determinations, both of position and time are relatively to
something. Today, the whole world time is measured relatively to the moment of the
sun passing above zero longitude. Moreover, relatively to that moment the
earth is divided into 24 time zones. In each time zone all clocks, at the
same moment relatively to the passage of the sun above zero longitude show
in advance defined time. Thus our civilization has a general earth time in a wide
and narrow sense. If there was a need for general galactic or cosmic time
then we would have to find a possibility of connecting the zero time to
some galactic that is cosmic event.
The existence of general time on earth is imposed by the need to
coordinate the activities of people all over the world. By using time, defined in
this manner, we can, for example, bring about the simultaneity of two events
in any two points in the world, at rest or moving, with a precision which
equals the precision of registering the simultaneity of two events in the
immediate vicinity. Such possibilities exist thanks to the agreed way of
determining - measuring time, human knowledge and achieved technical capacities.
If the determination of simultaneity and the measurement of time were as
disputable and inaccessible as Einstein maintains, then modern systems
of remote guidance, from various military systems to the systems for cosmic
research would not exist.
The way in which Einstein treats time and simultaneity, concerning
knowledge of events and physical processes on which the judgment
of time and simultaneity are based, is of poor quality. It is subjective and adjusted
so that the reader reaches wrong conclusions determined beforehand, which
will serve for the further derivation of new wrong conclusions. That this
is really the case can be seen in the next chapter, number 2, in which
relativity of lengths and time intervals is studied.
When talking about the relativity of lengths and time intervals Einstein
uses a piston length
, which is at rest or it is moving at a constant
speed along the
-axis, so that the piston axis matches with
the
-axis. He also uses a ruler with which he measures the
piston at rest and in motion. When the piston is at rest an observer measures
the length of the piston by holding the ruler against the piston and in
that way he determines that the piston's length equals
. Then the
observer moves with a ruler and the piston together (for example in a train).
Then, again the observer in motion holds the ruler against the piston and
determines again that the piston's length is
. In that way the observer
finds that the length of a piston at rest equals the length of a moving
piston, when the measurement is performed by the observer who moves together
with the piston. In short it means that the length of the piston at rest
is equal to the length of the piston in motion, when that length is measured
in a moving system in which the piston is at rest.
The third measurement method is more complex, since the observer, who
is at rest, should measure the length of a moving piston. That is the same
as if the observer from the railway embankment measured the length of a
wagon of a fast train, going past him. It is clear that in this case he
cannot measure the length of the wagon by holding a ruler against the outer
wall of the wagon. Therefore Einstein uses a different kind of measurement.
In that measurement he uses light rays and clocks. And that is where the
great deception in the construction of the theory of relativity begins
- the deception on which this theory is based.
In this experiment he uses two clocks, one of which fixed to the
beginning of the piston at point
, and the other to the end of the
piston at point
. He also puts the source of light at point
, and a mirror at point
which reflects light back to point
. With the
piston, which is at rest, thus equipped, he checks whether the clocks are
synchronized, in the way that is described in the quoted text and the Eq.
(24.1) on the equality of time intervals
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where
and
are the times shown by the clock
at point
(beginning of the piston), and
is the time shown by the clock at point
(the end of the piston).
The time interval
is the time needed for a ray of light sent from
point
to reach point
, and the time
interval
is the time needed for the same light ray,
after being reflected from the mirror at point
,
to return to point
. Since
then
the clocks will be synchronized if the equality of time interval given
by the Eq. (24.1) is satisfied.
In that manner he determines that the clocks are synchronized. On the
basis of the measured time intervals and the light speed he finds that
the piston's length is
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(24.4) |
After making adjustments in this way, checking that the clocks are
synchronized and determining the length of the piston, he puts the equipped
piston into a state of motion at a constant speed
and repeats
the experiment to check whether the clocks are working in synchronization.
A schematic representation of the experiment is given in the Figs.
24.2.1, 24.2.2 and 24.2.3. Fig. 24.2.1 gives the starting position of the
piston, that is the state at the moment when a light ray starts from point
(the beginning of the piston) towards point
.
In Fig. 24.2.2 the position of the piston at the moment when the ray arrives at the mirror
at point
(the end of the piston) is shown, and Fig. 24.2.3
gives the position of the piston at the moment when the ray reflected from
the mirror at point
arrives back at point
.
The starting position of the piston is given in full lines; the second position of the
piston (when the ray arrives at point
) is given in interrupted lines
and the third position (when the ray arrives back in the point
)
in dotted lines.
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As the pictures show, the ray passes from point
towards point
. The time (moment) of the start of the ray from point
towards point
is noted by an observer
on the basis of the time shown by the clock at point
.
From that moment the ray moves towards point
.
During that time while the ray is moving at speed
towards
the mirror, the piston with the mirror is moving in the same direction
so that the mirror is moving ahead by the length
and arrives
from point
at point
. Therefore,
to reach the mirror, the ray had to cover the distance
.
As we know, if the piston had not moved, the ray would have covered only the distance which
is equal to the length
. This means that because of the piston's motion
the ray had to cover a longer distance, and more time is needed for this, so
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Because of that, the time needed for the ray to arrive at point
when the piston is at rest will differ from the time needed
for the ray to arrive at point
when the piston is moving.
The observer will see that a time difference in the arrivals of the ray occurred, and
Einstein would conclude, of course wrongly and probably intentionally, that
the time shown by the clocks changed because, as a result of motion, the
rhythm of the clock "ticking" changed, and not because the length of the
path covered by the light ray changed.
While the ray returns, after being reflected from the mirror,
at point
covers a distance shorter than the length of the piston
because the beginning of the piston (point
) is coming towards
the light ray at the speed
, so
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(24.6) |
The observer will notice that the time of the ray's return, according
to the clock at
when the piston is moving, differs from the
time of the return of the ray when the piston is at rest. Einstein concludes
that this clock also changed its "rhythm of ticking" because of its motion.
However, it is clear that time intervals changed because of the change
in the length of the ray's path, so that
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(24.7) |
And also
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(24.8) |
As has already been said, Einstein deduces a conclusion, which is obviously
wrong, that the clocks stop being synchronized as soon as they start moving
and because of that the concept of simultaneity should not be given absolute
meaning.
Einstein's previous experiment with a piston can be made with sound
instead of light. However, in that case, at the same length and the speed
of piston motion, the disagreement between the clocks would go up by around 1012
times, because the speed of sound is about 106 times smaller than the
speed of light. Naturally, with experiments where sound is used, the speed
of piston motion must be less than the speed of sound.
The clocks at rest can be synchronized even when they are far apart,
by using the procedure and the requirement given by Eq. (24.1). Accordingly,
a moving piston can be of any length, and still the clocks at its end would
go on working in a synchronized manner.
In the theory of relativity it is claimed that the de-synchronized
function of the clocks which were synchronized while at rest occurs because
of the motion of those clocks. However, it is not mentioned anywhere that
the de-synchronization is also a function of the piston length, that is
the distance between the clocks. De-synchronization is reduced with the
reduction of the piston length, so the clocks, which are placed next to
each other "tick" in rhythm, that is they are synchronized, independently
of that how fast they move. The reason for this is clear from the explanation
given in Figs. 24.2.1, 24.2.2 and 24.2.3, and which can be summarized thus:
the greater the distance between the clocks, the greater the de-synchronization,
because the light needs to travel not only the distance
but
also the additional distance
, for which the piston moves while the
light travels the distance
. That move
is proportional to the length and the speed at which the piston moves.
The explanation given above of the different time taken by light rays
to pass along the piston when it is at rest and when it is in motion is
based on the real situation and is not in accordance with the theory of
relativity; neither is Einstein's discussion of the synchronisation of
the clock at rest and in motion. The fundamental principle of the theory
of relativity is the constant velocity of light which will be the same
in both systems,
and
.
Also, according to this theory, the length of the piston is the same in all systems
in which the piston is at rest.
As a result, if the light source, the mirror and the clocks are fastened
to the ends of the piston as Einstein describes in §2 quoted above,
then, according to the theory of relativity, the time taken for the light
rays to pass from the beginning to the end of the piston and vice versa
must be the same, whether the piston is at rest in system
or
moves with system
. In both cases, according to the theory, the speed
of light relative to the piston is the same, and the length of the piston
is the same too, since the piston is at rest in the system in which the
measurement is made. Therefore, the observer who moves with the piston
would not be able to perceive the change in the time taken for the rays
to pass along the piston and would not be able to conclude that the clocks
which are in motion do not work in the same rhythm as the clocks that are
at rest. In reality the clocks will work in the same rhythm but they will
show different times taken by the light rays to pass along the piston,
for the reason explained before in Figs. 24.2.1 24.2.2 and 24.2.3.
As a result Einstein's claim, that synchronized clocks while at rest
lose synchronization when moving, is unfounded and that physical process
in the given thought experiment with a piston and a clock in motion is
incorrectly analyzed and interpreted in order to lead the reader astray
and make him accept the claim that time and length change only because
of motion.
In the text quoted in §2, when assessing the synchronization of
the clocks, Einstein says: "Taking into account the principle of the constancy
of the speed of light, we find
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where
is the length of a moving piston measured in an unmoving
system."
With the two given Eqs. (24.3) at the very beginning of his work on
the theory of relativity Einstein negated his postulate that the speed
of light in vacuum is the maximum speed in nature and his theorem on the
addition of speeds, according to which the sum and the difference of the
speed of light and any other speed equals the speed of light. Since, if
the speed of light is the maximum possible speed then using the expression
becomes senseless since, according to him the speed
does not exist. Also, if his theorem on the addition
of speeds is correct, why does he then use the expressions
and
in the Eq. (24.3), and later in other equations,
where it is simpler instead to use only
.
However, if he did that, he could not derive his equations
and draw his conclusions, or the conclusion in connection with Eqs. (24.3).
Einstein claims that the theory of relativity is a theory of principles.
However, we can conclude that the theory of relativity have some declared
principles, but it does not keep to these principles, and thus it is not
a theory of principles. Many of its key claims are in conflict. Many of
its findings are incorrect, and nearly all are derived in an unacceptable
fashion. Consequently, the theory of relativity is not a consistent scientific
theory, if it can be called a scientific theory at all.
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